Should there be a suspension for not trying?

/stop me now if there is a clear rule on this


Does anyone think there should be? I'm bringing this up now because of the Haynesworth trade, I am 99% sure that Haynesworth will try as hard as he can in New England..and he should be punished if he does. I know some players may not be happy with their coaching, and that's fine, but if a player does this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFzp3uHua40 ..and then goes on to another team and racks up double digit sacks and helps his team tremendously then he deserves a punishment.

He needed a nap. Give him a break gosh

His teammates know whether or not he's trying. I would hope this would be an area where players police themselves. If a player is not giving an honest effort he is screwing over all his teammates. From a player prospective, this should not be tolerated at all.

well if i was a coach, he'd get his ass fucked. i want monkey retards.

ill take guys that play every minute of a game like its 0-0 instead of that shit

No he doesn't need to be punished, teammates will turn on him if he doesn't step it up and not give 100% every play, they'll put him in his place.

I only feel like he should be punished for the financial aspect...he has a great run in Tennessee, signs a 7 year $100 million contract with the Redskins.."plays" lazily for two years, ACQUIRES NEARLY ALL OF THE CONTRACT MONEY, then signs with New England.

nobody else sees an issue with this?

Pintsizedjark wrote:I only feel like he should be punished for the financial aspect...he has a great run in Tennessee, signs a 7 year $100 million contract with the Redskins.."plays" lazily for two years, ACQUIRES NEARLY ALL OF THE CONTRACT MONEY, then signs with New England.

nobody else sees an issue with this?

That's the team's problem for signing him to that lucrative of a contract.

SteelersJMB wrote:

Pintsizedjark wrote:I only feel like he should be punished for the financial aspect...he has a great run in Tennessee, signs a 7 year $100 million contract with the Redskins.."plays" lazily for two years, ACQUIRES NEARLY ALL OF THE CONTRACT MONEY, then signs with New England.

nobody else sees an issue with this?

That's the team's problem for signing him to that lucrative of a contract.

Yeah, there's a reason for the "incentive clauses" in a lot of contracts nowadays.

And no, he can't be punished. "Not trying" is way too intangible.

a team knows what theyre getting when they sign a guy like that. If they are worried abou it, make it laced with many incentives and little guaranteed.

its the coaches job to motivate a player if they cant do that then its thier fault.

so you guys have absolutely no problem if a player gets his money, acts like a baby and refuses to play up until the point where the team can't handle him anymore, then he happily goes to a winning team and gives 100%?

Pintsizedjark wrote:so you guys have absolutely no problem if a player gets his money, acts like a baby and refuses to play up until the point where the team can't handle him anymore, then he happily goes to a winning team and gives 100%?

If the management was stupid enough to give him nothing to work for, sure. How can you define "Not Trying" anyways? Its too subjective.

Pintsizedjark wrote:so you guys have absolutely no problem if a player gets his money, acts like a baby and refuses to play up until the point where the team can't handle him anymore, then he happily goes to a winning team and gives 100%?

no because there are ways of not paying him. you dont have to pay the guaranteed money. basically all money in the nfl isnt guaranteed.

ok, so what if he goes on the field and does absolutely nothing purposefully..and when he's finally benched he sits their and whines? you can't blame management for a player doing that two years into a contract...especially when that player was getting double digit sacks with his previous team..I didn't like Albert but i'll be pretty pissed if he plays hard.

Pintsizedjark wrote:ok, so what if he goes on the field and does absolutely nothing purposefully..and when he's finally benched he sits their and whines? you can't blame management for a player doing that two years into a contract...especially when that player was getting double digit sacks with his previous team..I didn't like Albert but i'll be pretty pissed if he plays hard.

what i would do is rape him...in the asshole

Pintsizedjark wrote:ok, so what if he goes on the field and does absolutely nothing purposefully..and when he's finally benched he sits their and whines? you can't blame management for a player doing that two years into a contract...especially when that player was getting double digit sacks with his previous team..I didn't like Albert but i'll be pretty pissed if he plays hard.

That player also stomped the head of another player. Teams know a guys work ethic when they sign him. Contracts need to be incentive based, and thats it. Theres no way to define "not trying". Because as soon as you say "well *insert name here* wasnt trying" the guy could be like "well I pulled a muscle so I couldn't go as hard. Haynesworth had no incentive to play. I don't blame him for sittin on his ass and collectin his pay check.

Pintsizedjark wrote:so you guys have absolutely no problem if a player gets his money, acts like a baby and refuses to play up until the point where the team can't handle him anymore, then he happily goes to a winning team and gives 100%?

yes i have a problem with it, but i feel like the team knew what they were getting ( haynesworth was never famous for work ethic) and didnt handle him correctly. obviously its possible to get production out of haynesworth jeff fischer did it. i blame mike shannahan for overestimating his coaching ability.

Conduct detremental to the team?

RSoxGuy wrote:Conduct detremental to the team?

id make up something. "he broke team rules"

"what rule"

"he put too much syrup on his pancakes...1.2 million dollar fine"

Pintsizedjark wrote:I only feel like he should be punished for the financial aspect...he has a great run in Tennessee, signs a 7 year $100 million contract with the Redskins.."plays" lazily for two years, ACQUIRES NEARLY ALL OF THE CONTRACT MONEY, then signs with New England.

nobody else sees an issue with this?

Yes there is a problem with it, but hey what can you do? I mean it's just like a player playing great just in a contract year to get the big pay day then fuck off, collect money and spend it all on hookers.

MaddMatt wrote:

Pintsizedjark wrote:I only feel like he should be punished for the financial aspect...he has a great run in Tennessee, signs a 7 year $100 million contract with the Redskins.."plays" lazily for two years, ACQUIRES NEARLY ALL OF THE CONTRACT MONEY, then signs with New England.

nobody else sees an issue with this?

Yes there is a problem with it, but hey what can you do? I mean it's just like a player playing great just in a contract year to get the big pay day then fuck off, collect money and spend it all on hookers.

DERRICK WARD.

its the GM fault .

you wanna hang someone hang him up.
might as well add the cards gm .

you cant offer a player a huge contract before you even know what fking defence you are going to run.

you sign a guy who is great in a 4-3 and is used to racking up the stats and now you ask him to hold up blockers in a 3-4.

everyone knew what kind of guy albert is, except the GM lmao.

oh cool! Haynesworth passed his conditioning test for the Patriots on his first try!..how many attempts did he fail for the Redskins?

Pintsizedjark wrote:oh cool! Haynesworth passed his conditioning test for the Patriots on his first try!..how many attempts did he fail for the Redskins?

Gotta a lot of hate for the guy huh?

SteelersJMB wrote:

Pintsizedjark wrote:oh cool! Haynesworth passed his conditioning test for the Patriots on his first try!..how many attempts did he fail for the Redskins?

Gotta a lot of hate for the guy huh?

I'll be fine if he is just as lazy and incompetent for the Patriots as he was for the Redskins..but it doesn't look like it will be that way.