NFL Draft: 2012

Browns January 7th 2012, 12:27 am

So for those of us who have the misfortune of already being in offseason mode, who would you like to see your team take in the upcoming draft. I want one of these three.

RGIII
Trent Richardson
Justin Blackmon

BONUS Q: What do the Colts do with the number 1 pick? I say take Luck, trade Manning, as hard as it is for me to even imagine Peyton in another uniform.

MaddMatter January 7th 2012, 12:31 am

Colts: TRADE THE PICK!

Hell who needs a QB.

I mean if they REALLY wanted him. I think the Browns could trade the farm to get up and get Luck.

But anyway. If I were Indy.

Right now I would trade the #1 pick and either pick up a QB late in this draft to learn under Manning for 2 years (Kellen Moore/ Case Keenum) While building up the defense. And if you don't like what Kellen Moore or Case Keenum then you always got Landry Jones and Matt Barkley next season, maybe Aaron Murray, Tyler Wilson possibly. Options are there next year for the QB position. I wouldn't take Luck just because everyone says so.

Browns January 7th 2012, 12:35 am

MaddMatt wrote:Colts: TRADE THE PICK!

Hell who needs a QB.

I mean if they REALLY wanted him. I think the Browns could trade the farm to get up and get Luck.

But anyway. If I were Indy.

Right now I would trade the #1 pick and either pick up a QB late in this draft to learn under Manning for 2 years (Kellen Moore/ Case Keenum) While building up the defense. And if you don't like what Kellen Moore or Case Keenum then you always got Landry Jones and Matt Barkley next season, maybe Aaron Murray, Tyler Wilson possibly. Options are there next year for the QB position. I wouldn't take Luck just because everyone says so.

Jim Irsay said they are in rebuilding mode. Do you rebuild around a 36 year old QB? I dont think so. Mannings due like, 28 Mil soon, and theyd have to pay Luck about 22-26 million, so your paying about 51 million just for 1 position. I don't see them passing up on Luck, so I think manning is good as gone.

And fuck no, I dont want the browns to trade up for Luck. The risk/reward with him scares the fuck outta me. If he busts it would set a team back 5 years minimum.

tubbs51 January 7th 2012, 3:22 am

i want the Seahawks to get another Pass rushing DE to place on the opposite side of Chris Clemons. Then depth everywhere else.

Hold out on QB til Barkely next year.

SteelersJMB January 7th 2012, 7:50 am

I didn't pay attention to college football at all lol

HurpDurpHurray January 7th 2012, 11:23 am

Brownsxfanx31 wrote:
MaddMatt wrote:Colts: TRADE THE PICK!

Hell who needs a QB.

I mean if they REALLY wanted him. I think the Browns could trade the farm to get up and get Luck.

But anyway. If I were Indy.

Right now I would trade the #1 pick and either pick up a QB late in this draft to learn under Manning for 2 years (Kellen Moore/ Case Keenum) While building up the defense. And if you don't like what Kellen Moore or Case Keenum then you always got Landry Jones and Matt Barkley next season, maybe Aaron Murray, Tyler Wilson possibly. Options are there next year for the QB position. I wouldn't take Luck just because everyone says so.
Jim Irsay said they are in rebuilding mode. Do you rebuild around a 36 year old QB? I dont think so. Mannings due like, 28 Mil soon, and theyd have to pay Luck about 22-26 million, so your paying about 51 million just for 1 position. I don't see them passing up on Luck, so I think manning is good as gone.

And fuck no, I dont want the browns to trade up for Luck. The risk/reward with him scares the fuck outta me. If he busts it would set a team back 5 years minimum.

I think it will all come down to the trade value of Manning versus the trade value of the first overall pick. If trading the pick is more valuable, why wouldn't they do it? Maybe trade down a little and take some like Morris Cliaborne and improve on their shitty defense? At the end of the day, having Manning or Luck isn't going to matter because the team sucks! They gotta make their team better, and that either means that Manning gets traded or the basically Andrew Luck does

S January 7th 2012, 11:51 am

I would like
Morris Claiborne
Dre Kirkpatrick
Justin Blackmon
or Quintin Coples

In that order. Were in need of another corner to place next to Chris Gamble. especially with teams like the Saints and the Falcons in our division were gonna need some people to slow down those passing attacks. If blackmon is on the board when we draft which I doubt we should go ahead and take him. Put as many weapons around a young QB as possible and your bound to succeed. then Quintin Coples would just be a fall back at this point. A pass rusher who could potentially do some damage is always good.

MaddMatter January 7th 2012, 12:56 pm

HurpDurpHurray wrote:
Brownsxfanx31 wrote:
MaddMatt wrote:Colts: TRADE THE PICK!

Hell who needs a QB.

I mean if they REALLY wanted him. I think the Browns could trade the farm to get up and get Luck.

But anyway. If I were Indy.

Right now I would trade the #1 pick and either pick up a QB late in this draft to learn under Manning for 2 years (Kellen Moore/ Case Keenum) While building up the defense. And if you don't like what Kellen Moore or Case Keenum then you always got Landry Jones and Matt Barkley next season, maybe Aaron Murray, Tyler Wilson possibly. Options are there next year for the QB position. I wouldn't take Luck just because everyone says so.
Jim Irsay said they are in rebuilding mode. Do you rebuild around a 36 year old QB? I dont think so. Mannings due like, 28 Mil soon, and theyd have to pay Luck about 22-26 million, so your paying about 51 million just for 1 position. I don't see them passing up on Luck, so I think manning is good as gone.

And fuck no, I dont want the browns to trade up for Luck. The risk/reward with him scares the fuck outta me. If he busts it would set a team back 5 years minimum.

I think it will all come down to the trade value of Manning versus the trade value of the first overall pick. If trading the pick is more valuable, why wouldn't they do it? Maybe trade down a little and take some like Morris Cliaborne and improve on their shitty defense? At the end of the day, having Manning or Luck isn't going to matter because the team sucks! They gotta make their team better, and that either means that Manning gets traded or the basically Andrew Luck does

Good way to look at it.

But if you trade Manning, you need a new QB. I personally would want a QB to sit behind Manning at least 1 or 2 years, because if you trade Manning and start a rookie QB right away that really isn't fair to that rookie QB. He'll be expected to replace Manning, which is unrealistic as a rookie.

MaddMatter January 25th 2012, 6:29 pm

First Round Draft Order:

1. Indianapolis Colts
2. St. Louis Rams
3. Minnesota Vikings
4. Cleveland Browns
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
6. Washington Redskins
7. Jacksonville Jaguars.
8. Carolina Panthers *
9. Miami Dolphins *
10. Buffalo Bills
11. Kansas City Chiefs*
12. Seattle Seahawks *
13. Arizona Cardinals
14. Dallas Cowboys
15. Philadelphia Eagles
16. New York Jets
17. Cincinnati Bengals (From Oakland)
18. San Diego Chargers
19. Chicago Bears
20. Tennessee Titans
21. Cincinnati Bengals
22. Cleveland Browns (From Atlanta)
23. Detroit Lions
24. Pittsburgh Steelers.
25. Denver Broncos
26. Houston Texans
27. New England Patriots (From New Orleans)
28. Green Bay Packers
29. Baltimore Ravens
30. San Francisco 49ers
31. New York Giants**
32. New England Patriots**

*To be determined by a coin flip.
**To be determined by Super Bowl.

Post your draft info and what not up in here. Maybe later well have a top 10 mock draft or something.

EPICxPENGUIN69 January 25th 2012, 6:32 pm

the jets are going offensive tackle or pass rushing end/linebacker with the 1st round pick

HurpDurpHurray January 25th 2012, 6:54 pm

1. Bengals trade up to get Luck
2. Bengals trade Dalton to Oakland for all their draft picks over the next 3 years
3. ???
4. Profit

S January 25th 2012, 10:41 pm

Panthers normally choose best talent on board (well so they say). I think our main needs are anything on defense.

EPICxPENGUIN69 January 26th 2012, 2:21 pm

MaddMatt wrote:First Round Draft Order:

1. Indianapolis Colts luck
2. St. Louis Rams tackle
3. Minnesota Vikings CB or DE
4. Cleveland Browns CB or WR but likely OT
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Who fucking knows
6. Washington Redskins QB, most likely RG3
7. Jacksonville Jaguars. Who fucking knows
8. Carolina Panthers * LB, S, or DT but I believe they trade down to not over draft
9. Miami Dolphins * QB, or trade out of the 1st round
10. Buffalo Bills WR, because they are crazy
11. Kansas City Chiefs* trades down to get a better value pick like a LB or OG
12. Seattle Seahawks * Who fucking knows, trade for manning?
13. Arizona Cardinals Defense is good, Oline and QB is sketchy
14. Dallas Cowboys Where do you start (talent my ass)
15. Philadelphia Eagles They need some bulk but they will take a speed guy (retards)
16. New York Jets I want Burfict or a pass rusher
17. Cincinnati Bengals (From Oakland) really where do you improve, another WR?
18. San Diego Chargers Rebuild the front 7 or Oline
19. Chicago Bears ....anything other than Oline is insane
20. Tennessee Titans Speed on the outside
21. Cincinnati Bengals If they take a WR, with this they take a solid pass rusher or trade down for a value pick
22. Cleveland Browns (From Atlanta) WR or TE here, my guess is a S or LB
23. Detroit Lions Well Suh, Fairly,...make it a DE and next year finish off a drafted fearsome 4some?
24. Pittsburgh Steelers. CB or Oline
25. Denver Broncos QB...nah im kidding. WR or HB
26. Houston Texans They should go WR, johnson is getting old
27. New England Patriots (From New Orleans) Anything on defense...but probably a WR or trade down to get a fuck load of picks
28. Green Bay Packers Trade out of the 1st to pick up Olinemen
29. Baltimore Ravens TE or WR
30. San Francisco 49ers Id like to think WR or DE or OLB
31. New York Giants** They lost have their DB field in 1 game, CB or S would be a good pick
32. New England Patriots** S

*To be determined by a coin flip.
**To be determined by Super Bowl.

Post your draft info and what not up in here. Maybe later well have a top 10 mock draft or something.

BaltRavensFan20 January 27th 2012, 9:47 pm

As for what the ravens need?

A OT/OG
A #1 WR (yes Torreys good, but hes a speed deep threat, we need someone like Calvin, or Andre to pair with him)
A ILB (to learn under Ray)
A S (Reed doesnt have much longer)

MyDirtyDangles January 27th 2012, 10:37 pm

1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

HurpDurpHurray January 27th 2012, 11:50 pm

MyDirtyDangles wrote:1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

I guess the Browns traded up?

MaddMatter January 28th 2012, 2:33 am

MyDirtyDangles wrote:1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

Dre Kirk in the top 10? I don't see it, hes short and just had a drug arrest (arrest? I know he had trouble with "drugs").

MyDirtyDangles January 28th 2012, 2:47 am

MaddMatt wrote:
MyDirtyDangles wrote:1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

Dre Kirk in the top 10? I don't see it, hes short and just had a drug arrest (arrest? I know he had trouble with "drugs").

ya they could also go with michael brockers there.

MaddMatter January 28th 2012, 4:09 am

Who do you guys think the best player in the draft is?

Me personally, I think its Justin Blackmon, the guy is just a monster and a real class act. I hope to see him succeed in the NFL.

HurpDurpHurray January 28th 2012, 11:54 am

MaddMatt wrote:
MyDirtyDangles wrote:1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

Dre Kirk in the top 10? I don't see it, hes short and just had a drug arrest (arrest? I know he had trouble with "drugs").

Oh good good. That means the Bengals will take him

MaddMatter January 28th 2012, 12:19 pm

HurpDurpHurray wrote:
MaddMatt wrote:
MyDirtyDangles wrote:1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

Dre Kirk in the top 10? I don't see it, hes short and just had a drug arrest (arrest? I know he had trouble with "drugs").

Oh good good. That means the Bengals will take him

Well hey, it was only Weed, so not to big a deal lol.

HurpDurpHurray January 28th 2012, 1:43 pm

MaddMatt wrote:
HurpDurpHurray wrote:
MaddMatt wrote:
MyDirtyDangles wrote:1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

Dre Kirk in the top 10? I don't see it, hes short and just had a drug arrest (arrest? I know he had trouble with "drugs").

Oh good good. That means the Bengals will take him

Well hey, it was only Weed, so not to big a deal lol.

Well hey, it was only weed, but maybe Jerome Simpson is his dealer. Better to keep the drugs in-house, you know?

S January 28th 2012, 6:52 pm

MaddMatt wrote:
MyDirtyDangles wrote:1. Indianapolis Colts: QB Andrew Luck
2. Cleveland Browns: QB RGIII
3. Minnesota Vikings: OT Matt Kalil
4. St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Morris claiborne
6. Washington Redskins: OT Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: OT Johnathan Martin
8. Carolina Panthers *: CB Dre Kirkpatick
9. Miami Dolphins *: RB Trent Richardson
10. Buffalo Bills: LB courtney Upshaw

ill do 11-32 closer to the draft.

Dre Kirk in the top 10? I don't see it, hes short and just had a drug arrest (arrest? I know he had trouble with "drugs").

He's like 6'2 pretty much perfect size for a corner and he runs like a 4.4 he'll surely go top 10 to us most likely. If we don't get him then we trade down and pick up alamadu tamau or whatever his name is. He's the DT from Washington he's dominating the senior bowl

tubbs51 January 28th 2012, 6:56 pm

@Epic: Colts cant trade Manning. They cant trade until after Manning is due that $28 million, and Irsay has openly commented that Luck is their man which means they'll release Manning before the first week of March.

I'm 100% certain that the hawks use that first round pick on a pass rushing DE/DT.

EPICxPENGUIN69 January 28th 2012, 7:59 pm

tubbs51 wrote:@Epic: Colts cant trade Manning. They cant trade until after Manning is due that $28 million, and Irsay has openly commented that Luck is their man which means they'll release Manning before the first week of March.

I'm 100% certain that the hawks use that first round pick on a pass rushing DE/DT.

what ESPN and NFL network have been saying is that manning could move his shit back so it could leave a trade as a possibility. problem is if manning is willing to move the date back

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