BB and Brady now 0-2 in SB after Spygate

Funny huh? coincidence maybe? lol

Anyone who says Spygate doesn’t matter is either a Patriots fan or someone related to Wes Welker. So for those doubting the impact of Belichick’s video cameras, here’s the cold hard truth:

Patriots postseason record under Belichick, with Sony………. 12-2
Patriots postseason record under Belichick, without Sony……. 4-4

BB’s whole legacy is garbage if he can’t win without cheating. Fox Sports agrees:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-new-england-patriots-new-york-giants-bill-belichick-needs-win-to-erase-smudge-of-spygate-020312

No this is stupid. Spygate? Seriously? The FACT is, they have BEEN to TWO more Super Bowls and in BOTH of them lost in the final minute. I'm tired of hearing this stupid ass spygate shit.

MaddMatt wrote:No this is stupid. Spygate? Seriously? The FACT is, they have BEEN to TWO more Super Bowls and in BOTH of them lost in the final minute. I'm tired of hearing this stupid ass spygate shit.

you cant argue the facts, they were 12-2 BEFORE they got caught cheating and are 4-4 in the Playoffs SINCE being caught...also they only won thier previous SB's by 3 points...any way you slice it they definetly are not the same unbeatble calibur team they were while they were cheating...I;m not the only one that thinks this either, obviously alot of sports professionals feel the same way, thats why i provided the Link

BB’s whole legacy is garbage if he can’t win without cheating.

Since the start of the 2007 season, the Patriots have compiled a 64-16 record, this includes four AFC East championships and 2nd place once(the year Brady didn't play).

Bill Belichick has won two 'Coach of the Year' awards, and Brady has won two MVP and two 'Offensive Player of the Year' awards.

Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are still doing a hell of a lot better than nearly all of the other teams that haven't been "cheating".

they won 3 'tainted" Superbowls by FGs, they were lucky to even be in there this year, I mean they got a cakewalk Playoff scenario by playing the Broncos and then without the Cundiff shank and Lee Evans drop they are not in it...IDC what any of you think, Patriots will always be tainted until they win a SB without cheating

Pintsizedjark wrote:

BB’s whole legacy is garbage if he can’t win without cheating.

Since the start of the 2007 season, the Patriots have compiled a 64-16 record, this includes four AFC East championships and 2nd place once(the year Brady didn't play).

Bill Belichick has won two 'Coach of the Year' awards, and Brady has won two MVP and two 'Offensive Player of the Year' awards.

Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are still doing a hell of a lot better than nearly all of the other teams that haven't been "cheating".

^This.

Puppetz man, enough with the hatin.

RSoxGuy wrote:

Pintsizedjark wrote:

BB’s whole legacy is garbage if he can’t win without cheating.

Since the start of the 2007 season, the Patriots have compiled a 64-16 record, this includes four AFC East championships and 2nd place once(the year Brady didn't play).

Bill Belichick has won two 'Coach of the Year' awards, and Brady has won two MVP and two 'Offensive Player of the Year' awards.

Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are still doing a hell of a lot better than nearly all of the other teams that haven't been "cheating".

^This.

Puppetz man, enough with the hatin.

I mean, I get he's a Jest fan, but come on. Saying that they haven't been the same since spygate is just fucking idiotic. I mean, the argument could be made if the Patriots with Brady and BB never got back to the Super Bowl, but they got back to the Super Bowl TWICE and lost in the final minute. It's not like they turned into a 4-12 team. I think the impact of spygate was minimal if anything.

Im not hating at all, as a matter of fact i wasnt even thinking about Spygate until i read that article by a professional sports columnist, obviously there are alot of people that feel this way, the only people that dont are either

1. Patriot Fans
2. people that didnt pay attention when Spygate happened ( fans of other teams etc etc)
3. people that just hate the Jets

spygate lol. Fact of the matter is, the giants have there number. Every team has that one team that they continuously struggle with and thats theres.

BUT THEY DID CHEAT AGAINST THE PANTHERS.

S-UNIT302 wrote:spygate lol. Fact of the matter is, the giants have there number. Every team has that one team that they continuously struggle with and thats theres.

BUT THEY DID CHEAT AGAINST THE PANTHERS.

AND THE EAGLES

NEW YORK -- New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick was fined the NFL maximum of $500,000 Thursday and the Patriots were ordered to pay $250,000 for spying on an opponent's defensive signals.

"This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell said in a letter to the Patriots.

The videotaping came to light after a camera was confiscated from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella while he was on the New York Jets' sideline.

MASTRxOFxPUPPETZ wrote:Im not hating at all, as a matter of fact i wasnt even thinking about Spygate until i read that article by a professional sports columnist, obviously there are alot of people that feel this way, the only people that dont are either

1. Patriot Fans
2. people that didnt pay attention when Spygate happened ( fans of other teams etc etc)
3. people that just hate the Jets

so what you're saying is that everyone doesn't agree with you because you included Patriot fans, fans of other teams, and people that hate the Jets...that's just about everyone.



I just don't see how you think your argument makes sense when the Patriots probably have one of the best winning percentages, the most division championships, most MVPs, etc since Spygate was over with.

MASTRxOFxPUPPETZ wrote:Funny huh? coincidence maybe? lol

Anyone who says Spygate doesn’t matter is either a Patriots fan or someone related to Wes Welker. So for those doubting the impact of Belichick’s video cameras, here’s the cold hard truth:

Patriots postseason record under Belichick, with Sony………. 12-2
Patriots postseason record under Belichick, without Sony……. 4-4

BB’s whole legacy is garbage if he can’t win without cheating. Fox Sports agrees:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-new-england-patriots-new-york-giants-bill-belichick-needs-win-to-erase-smudge-of-spygate-020312

at least they can win a sb..

seems like James Harrison also thinks this

https://twitter.com/#!/jharrison9292/status/166353753446944771

@jharrison9292 James Harrison
Told you, cheaters never win!!!!!!!!!

...and so does Amani Toomer

NYPost
Former Giants receiver Amani Toomer said he would put an asterisk next to each of the Patriots’ championships.
“I would,” he said in an interview on “The Jim Rome Show” yesterday. “I would, definitely. Without question.
“Tom Brady hasn’t won a Super Bowl since Spygate,” he added. “If they don’t win another Super Bowl with Brady, with Belichick, their three Super Bowls that they did win are going to be tainted. It’s going to be like Barry Bonds. You’re going to look at these three Super Bowls with an asterisk because of Spygate.”


...and soo does another ESPN analyst Freddie Coleman

Freddie Coleman of ESPN is tearing into the Patriots on ESPN Radio adding "James Harrison is right. Just throwing it out there."

...dont be hatin on me because i am providing the news that just so happens to involve alot of other peoples beliefs, and these are professionals in the NFL that believe this, lol, give me negative cred for exposing the truth..what a bunch of lowlifes

You said Bill Belichick's legacy is tarnished if he "can't win without cheating".

I provided proof that the Patriots have still been a top team(if not the top team) since Spygate was over with...what else do you need

Pintsizedjark wrote:You said Bill Belichick's legacy is tarnished if he "can't win without cheating".

I provided proof that the Patriots have still been a top team(if not the top team) since Spygate was over with...what else do you need

who really knows if they arent cheating? lol , they were caught once, maybe they are better equipped now ...and look, I am not the only person that feels this way, SEVERAL professionals feel the same way,lol...go give them some neg street cred why dont ya

yea but dude. i can not stand how much praise belichick gets for not running a real offense or defense. it seems with his personnel and shit he has turned his team into the colts where you spend all your money on one dude and say fuck it, he will mask everything else.

MASTRxOFxPUPPETZ wrote:

Pintsizedjark wrote:You said Bill Belichick's legacy is tarnished if he "can't win without cheating".

I provided proof that the Patriots have still been a top team(if not the top team) since Spygate was over with...what else do you need

who really knows if they arent cheating? lol , they were caught once, maybe they are better equipped now ...and look, I am not the only person that feels this way, SEVERAL professionals feel the same way,lol...go give them some neg street cred why dont ya

lol I don't mess with 'street cred', it's someone else.

and how do we know the Jets aren't cheating but they're just really really bad at it?

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7552078/tiquan-underwoods-rejoins-new-england-patriots-super-bowl-cut

Pats re-sign Tiquan Underwood
Wide receiver Tiquan Underwood, who was cut by the New England Patriots the night before Super Bowl XLVI, was re-signed by the team on Tuesday, the team announced.

A source told ESPNBoston.com's Mike Reiss at the time of Underwood's release that it was purely a football decision based on the Patriots' needs for their matchup with the New York Giants and was not disciplinary in nature, which would seem to be confirmed by the signing.

Well there goes the "BB is evil" theory.

no. belichick is still a cunt

heres my last comment on this subject..

watch this Dave Dameshek clip, he too makes a reference to Spygate and how tarnished BBs legacy is and also says there should be an asterik next to his name IF he even gets inducted into the HOF...cheating has no place in sports and when caught you shouldnt be praised.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/09000d5d826caf93/The-Shame-Report-SB-XLVI-edition?module=HP11_cp

I am not at all surprised that Puppies is the one making this thread haha. This is just like old times right here.


Hey Puppets, remember this shit:

WhyHateMe666 wrote:I am not at all surprised that Puppies is the one making this thread haha. This is just like old times right here.


Hey Puppets, remember this shit:

lol, yep....i actually thought you or someone photoshopped the pic but low and behold it was real